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blennyluv
07-18-2005, 11:27 AM
hi
i have yet another stupied rookie question. i have noticed on some of my live rock i have these little tubes, good. i see something stickingout but not much, but whatever it is puts out what looks like spider webs.
anyone have any clues???

newtofish
07-18-2005, 11:28 AM
Small feather dusters. They are filter feeders and are a good hitch hiker. I have them all over my tank.

blennyluv
07-18-2005, 11:32 AM
ya me too, but i never see the feathers on these ones

07-18-2005, 12:00 PM
If you don't see feathers but you see spider webs, I would guess vermetid snails. They are immobile, build tubes, send out a mucous net (quite like SPS corals) and then suck in whatever sticks to it.

Here's macro video of one (requires free download Quicktime). http://www.mbayaq.org/video/video_snailnet_feeding_qt.asp

BTW...they are harmless critters.

Doctor_Reef
07-18-2005, 12:07 PM
What he said or it may be a Terebellid worm..You can look them up and see if that is what you are seeing...It doesn't sound like a feather duster...or fan worm....By the way the Terebellid is a good guy I have one right at the front of my tank on a lone piece of LR...and it is fun to watch it put out its little tentacles and retract them in...There are many in this family...If I had a pic may be able to ID it better....

NaH2O
07-18-2005, 12:36 PM
There are several different types of worms which have things coming out. The spider web description does sound like a vermetid snail.

The other worms I'm thinking of: Spiniod or Chaetopterid as seen here from Marc Levenson's tank

http://melevsreef.com/id/dualpalps.jpg

and the Terebillid worm (http://www.reefimages.com/cgi-reefimages/page.cgi?list=Worms&slide=98.jpg)

here is a link to a terebillid worm movie: Terebillid Worm Movie (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gerbilbox.org/albums/invertebratemovies/DSCN0642.thumb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gerbilbox.org/gallery/invertebratemovies&h=113&w=150&sz=7&tbnid=uzC2KsHfUYcJ:&tbnh=67&tbnw=90&hl=en&start=17&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dterebellid%2Bworm%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3 Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us%26sa%3DN) - scroll down to the bottom left hand image.

Doctor_Reef
07-18-2005, 12:56 PM
Heheeh...Sorry sp on the terebellid???? I corected the sp in my post to the bellid...Any way sorry!!

http://www.reefimages.com/Worms/Worms4.htm

More worms...
http://www.reefimages.com/Worms/Worms.htm

blennyluv
07-18-2005, 04:02 PM
looks like it is the snail thing. small, cant really see it, may have to move it tothe front to get a better peak at it.
thanks for all the info guys. wheree do you find it all?

Doctor_Reef
07-18-2005, 04:08 PM
Check these two sites out...one for the snails and one for the worms...Great sample shots and great information...

Snails...
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-01/rs/index.htm

Worms...
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-05/rs/index.htm

See if those help with the ID process!!!

2639
07-22-2005, 02:14 PM
When I put in some rubble last week, I had a similar creature but it quickly died off :( It strung itself out to another rock and I could see it pulling something in. I hope I get more of those in the future. To get neat little creatures like that, do you HAVE to put in LR? Can things like that be imported other ways?

DKWICK
07-22-2005, 03:01 PM
Here is a pic of tube worms on my rock so you can see the difference.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/DKWICK/FeatherDusters.jpg
DKWICK

blennyluv
07-22-2005, 04:00 PM
ya, i have lots of those, these are def. those snails. got a good look at them after watching the video on them. i have about 5 all in the same area, all spinning webs. kinda cool