65G Setup Pictures.

[Mongoose]

Started putting the tank together a few days ago and thought I would post some pictures up. As of now the Cloosed Loop plumbing is almost done, however because of space constrictions I wasn't able to mount the union's in like I planned. The pump is easily accessable by un-doing a few screws in the PanWorld so I'm not going to worry about it. Also I have my CPR Overflow mounted on the tank, and the EuroReef and Mag 7 in the fuge. Tomarrow I would like to get the rest of the PVC in place and do a "freshwater leak test" Just to make sure everything is running good and dry before I put it next to the wall and fill it with saltwater. I'll post more pictures up tomarrow.

Looks like you got quiet the set up going there...good job and good pics. Lets see some updates when you got this baby in action. It should make for some good eye candy!

[cich1]

looks great so far, how about a shot of the front so i can see the closed up return

[Mongoose]

Cloosed loop is finished, I'm just waiting for everything to setup and dry. I'm going to plug it in tomarrow but here are a few more pictures, for now.

[cich1]

looks great so far, have you had the closed loop running yet? if so how did you prime it?

[Mongoose]

yup I just fired it up....no leaks no airbubbles the thing is very cool I'm excited. I primed it by placing an airtube on my aqua lifter pump and then running it up and over the cloosed loop inlet tube. It sucked all the air out of the system and primed the pump like a champ. I'm not sure if I'm going to try and tackle the fuge return tomarrow or not.

[cich1]

i see that explains why the aqualifter isn't hooked up to the cpr

[Mongoose]

YUP....Is anyone else here running a CL? I'm haveing alittle bit of noise when both the ball valves are open but if I close one off its silent and good. Might not be much of a problem when its back against the wall though.

[ssn774]

that is one sexy tank.. :shock:

[Mongoose]

Ok its all done.....well almost, I'm going to swap out the Mag7 in the fuge for a Mag950.

[cich1]

YUP....Is anyone else here running a CL? I'm haveing alittle bit of noise when both the ball valves are open but if I close one off its silent and good. Might not be much of a problem when its back against the wall though.
what kind of noise? its not the pump cavitating is it? try closing both the returns slightly and see if it quiets down some, it looks like your gonna have some serious flow in that tank

[Mongoose]

Cich, could you give me some more information on cavitating, what causes it and some possiable cures? Thanks.

[cich1]

pump cavitation

1. n. [Well Workover and Intervention] ID: 4725

A condition affecting an operating pump whereby the pump space is not fully charged with fluid being pumped. Pump cavitation may result from inadequate or restricted supply or from the introduction of air or gas into the fluid stream. The effect of cavitation depends on the type of pump. However, in most cases, it is an undesirable condition that causes a reduction in pump efficiency and excessive wear or damage to pump components.






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i was just wondering if your input was unable to supply enough water to your pump, if thats the case restricting the output by closeing your return valves should fix that problem, just close them a little at a time till the noise goes away. what made me think that it may be a supply issue is becaause it looks like ypur running a 3/4'' supply line and 1'' return

[Mongoose]

I see, Thanks for the idea I'll have to check it out. I'm running a 1' supply line and two 1' return lines.

[Mongoose]

Looks like chic gets the award today. That seems to be the problem I close each valve alittle and the noise goes away :) My next questions is...should I redo the intake line to like 1 1/4' or 1 1/2'? Or should I not worry about it....

[cich1]

i'm not sure i would mess with it but on the other hand now is the time to do it, once its up against the wall it might be a real pain to change out

[Aquaman]

Maybe I'm just retarted but I have two silly questions.

1. The yellow pump you have hooked up, it looks like you a 1" supply line coming into the pump and a 1" outlet with a "T" (looks cool) Is the pump doing anything else or just circulating water. I can't tell by the picture.

2. What is that black piece connected to the fuge, looks like a "T" is it some kind of check valve?

Very nice setup and excellent PVC skills (No messy glue everywhere)

[Mongoose]

The yellow pumps sole purpose is the move water. It has no filtration on it whatsoever.

The Black "t" piece connected to the fuge is called a SCWD I'm sure some of you are filmiliar with it. All it does is alternate current from one return line to the other. Pretty cool wavemaker.

[cich1]

the yellow pump is running a "closed loop" system it just provides added flow to the tank, the black T is called a scwd "switching current wave device" it has a flapper valve in it that alternates the current from return to the other creating a wave in the tank

[cich1]

mongoose beat me to it, i'm at work so every now and then i actually have to do something :D

[Mongoose]

hahaha....Your day sounds just like mine :) Keep coralforum minimized, and don't forget to delete your history and cookies :lol:

[Aquaman]

Yeah I'm at work myself. I seem to spend more time on coralforum than actually doing work! I like your idea with the pump. I have an extra Iwaki pump that would be good for something like that. The only issue I have is that my pump is a 20gallon per MINUTE pump and when you throttle it back even the slightest bit, it becomes loud. If I was to leave it wide open it is way too powerful.

[Mongoose]

Aquaman....Take you powerheads out and hook up that pump.....I bet it won't be as rediculous as you might think. I'm useing the Panworld which is 1110GPH and upgrading from a mag 7 to a Mag950 because I don't think I have enough flow.

Just make you you make two returnlines that are fairly large coming back into the tank if you decide to do it. hehehehe....maybe I'm crazy I dunno. :w00t:

[Aquaman]

Yeah I like the idea a lot. It's a nice pump and I would really like to use it for something. I have a wet/dry under my tank that I installed before setting the stand in place and now I can't get it out of the front :-(
I just got a CPR BakPak2 so I wasn't gonna use the wet/dry. But I can use the pump from the wet/dry setup to do something like that. I really hate too much clutter in the tank (powerheads) IMO, it looks cleaner in a display tank to have less equipment inside the tank or atleast hiding it.

[Mongoose]

yeah I know what you mean about the looking clean inside the tank, thats why I'm a big fan of the CPR Overflows.

AAAACHEMMAG12CCLLLOOOOOSEDLOOP :)

Actaully I would have to know more about your tank before I could recommend that or not. I would say if its SPS corals for sure I would do it. Softys might get alittle pissed off if you did that. FishOnly....I would do it in a heart beat...they will be in better shape after fight that current and another benifit is thier fins are always flared up, so they look awesome.

[Mongoose]

Alittle update, I went to premium and brought home about 80lb's of uncured fiji LR to cycle the tank with. Funny or no so funny story......I broke one of my rocks in 1/2 and discovered a worm......a worm very similar to the one Steve Weast has on his websight that grew to a length of 6ft!!!!!!! I wasn't about to grab it with my hands and by the time I got back with a tool he has disappeared inside the rock again. Solution.....submersing the rock in freshwater for about 2 hours HAHAHA I can only hope that its dead and I don't have anymore of them in the tank. EWWWWWW
Anyways I'll post up some pictures once its cycled and I'm happy with the rock structure.

[cich1]

I can't wait to see it with some rock in it, are you going barebottom or DSB or something in between?

Nice set up. I am thinking about doing my 240 like that but use an oceans motions 8 way swtiching valve to provide irregular current flow instead of the SQWD. I like the way you added the photos to show case things. A picture can often times be worth a 1000 words they say...

[Mongoose]

Imaexpat2: 240 is sure getting close to my dream tank! That would be awesome make sure to keep us all posted!

cich: Well the BB seems to be in at the moment but I dont' think I could stand having nothing on the bottem so I did about 20lbs of southdown and 25lbs of aragomax. Its about 2inches of sandbed. I actually read an artical that said DSB's are not so bad as long as you don't get in the tank and stir them up once they are established. I think that BB is the safer way to go but that would be one pissed off cleanup crew :lol:

[Mongoose]

BTW: MY Euro Reef is pulling out some FOUL FOUL stuff. Ugh I had to about run out of the bathroom when I was emptying the cup HAHA

[cich1]

i thought about going BB on my nano but i really do prefer the look of sand

[Condiman]

What a very impressive setup you have. I had a bit of pump noise on my CL and all I did was put a foam pad under the pump and that took care of that. I believe it was the best thing I ever did was to put a closed loop on my tank.

[29NaNo_ReEf]

niiiice

[aengus]

nice pics!!! are you satisfied with the wavemaker????

[Mongoose]

Yeah the wavemaker is awesome and the reefkeeper is a good deal IMO. It catches alot of flak because it doesn't support PH like other systems do but you can buy a PH Monitor seperate and it will still be less than the other systems.

[Sugar Magnolia]

Have you gotten LS and LR in there yet? I'm dying to see pics of it filled up. It's an awesome set up!

[Mongoose]

Yeah I've got all the sand a live rock arranged in what I think will be awesome for SPS onces it all grows out. Also I moved my YEllow Tang from my 29 into the tank he is very shy still but eating like a pig. I think he needs a tank mate to make him not so standoffish. I'll post some picture this weekend, I'm currently going through my brown alge bloom :(

[specsgirl]

Very clean looking tank setup! I can't wait to see the picts of it filled!