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Sandman12
12-06-2003, 01:17 PM
MY overflow is really loud it makes like a gargoling noise, can anyone help me with this? I plan to get a new overflow by tomarrow anyways but i would like to try to get it silent

jman785
12-06-2003, 02:12 PM
Are you more annoying by the water fall sound or the sucking sound?

Sandman12
12-06-2003, 02:14 PM
both i want silecnce

jman785
12-06-2003, 06:52 PM
Two words, Durso Standpipe. :)

http://www.rl180reef.com/pages/standpipe/standpipe_frame.htm

Then click Build your own standpipe, it'll explain it all, they work so good ;)

- Jared

Sandman12
12-07-2003, 11:20 AM
thanks for the link but i got it to stop. Now iam worried about flooding issues. What if the return pump stops? the overflow will keep going AND the pump stoping will create a shipon wich will fill up my sump really fast and overflow everywhere :( .

I think i know what i can do but any input is great

jman785
12-07-2003, 12:53 PM
Fill me in on your setup, pics would be even better. In your return pump in your sump shuts off, the overflow would keep overflowing to a certain point and then stop, NOT overflowing your sump, unless your return is submerged then it might create a siphon.

- Jared

Sandman12
12-07-2003, 01:01 PM
give me ur e-mail and i will send u pics, it says i cant upload them here

paulsreef
12-07-2003, 07:43 PM
Sandman, I have a Durso Standpipe in my overflow. No need to worry about over flowing. If your return pump stops, then no more water will be returned to the tank and therefore water will stop flowing into the overflow. Conversely, if the siphon is lost in the Durso, then water would stop flowing into the overflow, the return pump would soon run out of water and you'd reach a point of equilibrium. The trick with your sump is to build in enough buffer height to handle the extra water in such case. The only bad thing that can happen in that scenario is that your return pump would keep running. You'd be wise in that case to install an auto-shutoff with a level meter.

Paul

Sandman12
12-07-2003, 07:53 PM
You'd be wise in that case to install an auto-shutoff with a level meter.


what is this , where can i buy it and how much?

Charles Poole
12-07-2003, 09:33 PM
Drill a hole in the main return lines just below the waters surface. This is called a siphon break, and will stop the siphon action when the pump is stopped. This is an easy an very effective way of controlling the power outage water on the floor thing.......

Remember to make sure that these holes do not get blocked by algae or anything else, as they will not function if this happens.

I have found that locating the output end of the siphon hosing approx. 3 inches below the waters surface inside the sump helps to reduce the noise caused by the whirlpool in the down-tube. I am not familiar with the Durso stand pipe, but I also run a hose through the main siphon line, this is to keep the whirlpool effect from starting in the first place. This whirlpool effect is the cause of the sucking noise so often heard with natural siphon overflows.

Hope that helps.... :)

Sandman12
12-09-2003, 07:33 PM
yup i did everything u said and it all worked. Now iam consentrating getting my water level to stay at one spot!!! I thought i had it, it hadnt moved for an hour so i went to bed with it on (boy is it a noisy system, just all together) then when i woke up it had droped an inch. I htink i have it taken care of, there were some small leaks.

BUt what about the noise?? just everything all together mainly the return and the bubbles from the overflow. any suggestions?

Charles Poole
12-10-2003, 03:48 PM
As far as the bubbles from the return go, the only way I can think of off hand, is maybe to put a 90' elbow at the bottom of the return hose. This will help keep the bubbles from going to the bottom of the sump, then rushing back to the surface with a resounding "POP".

You mentioned the return, are you referring to the pump? I am not exactly sure what you mean.

05-02-2004, 05:46 PM
durso is a joke, he copied everything from a magazine article that i had 11 years ago, he copied it word for word. the method does work, but i was making them that wasy for over 11 years.
calling something a durso standpipe is the biggest joke i have ever heard, all he is doing is fooling alot of newb aquarist that have been around for less than 10 years

jman785
05-03-2004, 04:08 PM
Gregoryalln,

Such comments are not needed to be so 'negative'. I really don't care about who started making them 11 years ago...all that matters is, no one was smart enough to patent them like Richard Durso and end up producing them. End of subject. :chuggin:

05-03-2004, 04:25 PM
actually it isnt even patented, and it's not smart to rip off other people's ideas, there is also this little thing called copy right infrengement. the subject ends when i say it ends! if you want it to end, then just dont reply.

Coral Forum Admin
05-03-2004, 06:18 PM
Alright and we are done :)