Sabae Anemone

I Have A Sabae Anemone But He Will Not Stay Put In The Area I Put him In. Its Not That Hes Moving Its Like He's Getting Blown Away. Does This Mean He's Unhealthy Because Hes Not Sticking.

[Charles Poole]

Welcome to CoralForum NB2SB.

It has been my experience that if the anemone is blowing away with the tanks current, that it is just to strong for the anemone to feel secure. You can try placing him inside a cave entrance or In between a couple rocks.

*** Becareful not to crush or damage the anemones tissue. ***

Another possibility is reducing the current in this area. This will make it easier for the stressed anemone to grab hold of the rock or sandy substrate. No matter how well the anemone was treated during shipping, it will have suffered a bit of stress.


This stress makes it hard for the anemone to refocus energy from growth (which it was likely doing in the wild before it was collected) into repairing any damaged tissue and reattaching itself to the substrate. If the anemone is not white or almost white, then given proper tank conditions (S.G. 1.025, pH 8.1 - 8.4, and loads of light) it will soon become a lasting member of your reef. I have my anemone in a 20 gallon reef with 1 x 175watt 14000k Metal Halide.

I have what was sold to me as a White Sabae Anemone. I later learned that this is a very unhealthy condition for the animal. The animal in question has been identified by all visual means, except tissue analysis. I believe it is the anemone Heteractis malu . It turned brown after a month or so, and now has long tentacles that have a green fluorescent hue on them, and purple tips. It has grown much larger since I brought it home 2 years ago.

So what you are experiencing with your anemone is in my opinion very normal, and easily corrected. Please keep me updated on your anemones condition, and please ask any other questions you may have.

Charles Poole

I Decided To Stay Away From Anemones.

[Zack]

I Decided To Stay Away From Anemones.

GREAT IDEA!!!! :)

Lol, Did You Have ANy Bad Experences With Them?

[Zack]

To many man to many.... :(

Lol, That Sux. Luckly I Stopped Early

[Zack]

Thats for sure man!!!!!! don't fall for it again PLEASE :wink:

[paulsreef]

awwww... c'mon guys, Anemone’s are awesome animals! Ok, I'll grant that they are definitely not the easiest animals to keep, but they're definitely worth the challenge if you really like the animal. I've had my Sebae now for over a year, and before that I had a HUGE green carpet anemone for 2 years (it sadly died in a horrible powerhead falling on the sandbed accident). Its been my experience with Heteractis species that they prefer the proximity of a calcareous substrate around their bases. Each species is different, depending on it natural habitat. For example Riteri anemones are definitely rock dwellers, whereas Carpets often like to be in rock holes. I'll say this though, I personally won't get one until a tank is well established... say 6 months old or more. The water quality has got to be great or they'll just die. Luck also plays a certain role with anemones too. Sometime they're just too stressed out from capture and they'll die no matter what you do. Most of the time though if they get a good foothold in your system (pun intended) and you feed them well, they'll outlive you!
Here's a picture of my Sebae:
http://64.234.201.94/images/sebae.gif

Here's a shot of the dearly departed Green Carpet:
http://extremereef.com/ExtremeAlbums/album14/Oscar.jpg
When space permits, I will have another tank dedicated to one of these monsters. It was truely an great anenome.

Here's a link to a great little booklet about them (you can get one cheap too) Host Sea Anemone Secrets (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0966454952/qid=1069294527/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-7676982-8544839?v=glance&n=507846)

[Quality-Corals.com]

Paulsreef,
That is a awesome looking anemone! I think the biggest issue as it pertains to keeping them alive has to be the lighting! Most of them just will not tolerate low light conditons except for condys and long tentacles. Check out this sebae. I have had him for about a year now. He is huge! It is a White sebae with purple tips.

[paulsreef]

That's is a great looking anemone! What species is that? Hey, I see you're from Toledo! I did some of my undergrad work there. Go Rockets!

[nanoman123]

@#$! my other comps internet is not working and the other comp is the one wit the pics on it. anyway, i have a BTA in my 10 gal. been livin PERFECTLY healthy for about 6 months. i feed it about once a month and i feed him my home made food


ingredients:

mix all this in a cup for about one tray of cubes serving:


pour ur saltwater from ur tank into a small dixie cup until the cup is aobut 1/3 full. then, pour the water into a big cup wheere u can mix stuff wit a fork or sumthin.


add 2 cubes of brine and 3 cubes of krill to the cup.


next, add about 2 cubes of frozen OR dried veggie food.


i add about one tabelspoon of zocon food soak, and one tabelspoon of zooplex.

mix it all together and pour it into a empty frozen food cube tray and put in the freezer!!

this food works great for all my fish, my corals, and my anenome!

[Paidbychrist0825]

man, both of those nems are real nice. you guys mat have swayed me from the Magnifinect sea nem(heteractis magnifica) i wanted. plus, i dont have room for one of those, tank i will be using is only a 55

[paulsreef]

Well, you could have room in a 55, it would just depend on what else you're going ot keep in there. Its good that you're planning now instead of buying one and then realizing that you don't have room for it. You can always buy a small specimen. Anemones tend to grow according to how well they're fed, so if you're not feeding it every single day, it will stay rather small. I feed my Sebae about once a week which pretty much maintains its current size. That carpet you see in the picutur though at all the time in the beginning and obtained a substantial size rather quickly.

[Paidbychrist0825]

i am looking at varioos other srieceies of carpet nems, and i like the blue one also i poated a link to the one i am looking at now
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=23&pCatId=1393

[paulsreef]

How old is your tank? Carpets are picky in that they like a well established, clean tank (who wouldn't I guess) and they can expand to a considerable size, so they limit what you can put around them. Like I said though, they're awesome creatures and I plan to dedicate a tank to one when I'm able. If it’s at all possible, I would try to find a LFS with a specimen that you can buy as opposed to buying one mail order. You're going to want to be able to see the thing, make sure it looks healthy and is eating. Plus, the extra stress of shipping and then re-acclimation may be too much for an already touchy organism. I gotta tell you, as it pointed out in the link you posted, the sting is quite potent. I've still got a nice scar on my arm where I got latched onto. These guys don't care what you are... if you brush that disk and its hungry, it’s going to hang on. From personal experience, this is one of those organisms I would recommend leaving in a "species" tank.

[paulsreef]

Oh, and one more thing... that price there is way too high! You should be able to find it for much less than that. Maybe I'm spoiled living down here close to the importers, but $148 seems really high to me.

[Paidbychrist0825]

i am not up yet, doing research for future. i think its best to have everything researched out really well. i am looking for a job, and will have a long time to look everything up and learn about it before getting first specimen. i will probly have the clowns for a few weeks before i even start thinking about the purchase of the anemone. i had intended to shop around.(i am also looking for bigger tank, but then who isnt :) )

[Paidbychrist0825]

One more thing. what is a good way to make it let go? i think my mother will be more likely to let le get one if i know how to get it off. she is one of those:" dont let anything harmful get within 100 feet of my boy" mothers. she is even a little iffy about the lionfish i want when i get a bigger tank. She is quite sure ill get myslef stabbed.

[Paidbychrist0825]

looking at the anemone price, that is only for the blue. the green is like 68.99, but i like the blue better, and if necassary, i will pay a higher price.

[paulsreef]

Yeah, Blue's are always more expensive. I've seen them in the LFS's around here for about $95 or so, but if you can be assured of a healthy one, then its worth it. As far as getting it so let go... that's really tricky. Understand that when its got a hold of you what's going on:

Basically, nematocysts have been fired and are pumping toxin into the contact site. This just kind of hurts us, but it will paralyze a fish. Some people are allergic to this toxin, so be very careful. No, I have no idea how to tell if someone is. Since I'm sitting here writing this, I'm obviously not and I didn't swell up like a balloon. If you do get stung (either in your aquarium or diving) you'll want to wash the wound and see a doctor if the swelling (edema) get's really bad. I heard of certain cases where necrosis (localized tissue death) has occured. This isn't something you want to take a wait and see attitude about if you're one of the unlucky people who have bad reactions. Thankfully most people don't... but you never know.

So if you have one attached, the order of the day is patience and don't freak out. You're going to have to coax it off gently so you don't tear its tissue and make the situation worse by getting more of it stuck to you. Its not all as bad as this seems... this doesn't happen often if you're careful.

Have You Ever Heard Of A Circle Anemone. They Have Them At My LFS For 12.99

[paulsreef]

Post a pic if you can, or describe its morphology. Its hard with common names because with inverts, just like corals, a common name is often ascribed to more than one species that might have similar attributes. Where do they say its from?

When I Go To The LFS I Will Ask

[Zack]

Can you take pictures in the lfs??

I Dont Think I Cant But It Would Be A Little Funny Standing In Front Of A Tank Taking Pictures.

Ok It Was A Careless Mistake Buy Me. Its Not A Circle Anemone Its A Curlique Anemone.

[paulsreef]

Ah! Ok, that's a Rock Anemone. They're fine as long as you're not trying to get clowns to host in them. Clowns won't go near them. It looks a lot like a Cerianthus (Tube anemone)... long, thin wispy tentacles. They're pretty, but they can grow quite large and their tentacles can sting corals that are close by.

[Zack]

If you get one love to see pics of it :)

Why Were They So Cheap? They Are Really Nice But I Want An Anemone That A Clown Would Host. Now That We Are Sorta Pn The Topic Of Clowns Do You Think That If I Bought 2 Tank Raised Clowns And A Black Clown That They Will FIght?

[paulsreef]

They're cheap because they're a more common species and they have less commercial value that other species like Carpets, Sebae's, BTA's, etc. If you want to have an anemone and some clowns, try the Sebae first and then add your clowns. Add the anemone first and give it a couple weeks to get acclimated to your tank before you add the clowns. I say this because many clowns can be rather enthusiastic about their anemones ;-) If you add them at the same time, its likely that the clowns will be so aggressively cuddly with their new host that it won't have the chance to find a spot to settle in. If you're going to go with a Sebae, they like to be in the sand with calcareous material (like calcium based sand) on all sides of them. Once it settles in and finds a happy home (i.e. puts it’s foot down, doesn’t move and is eating regularly), add the clowns. They'll find the anemone no problem. Clowns are VERY territorial, so unless you've got a large tank, I would stick with just one species. I know there are people out there that have more than one, but that statement is just based on personal experience. If you're going to add two of the same species, make sure that you get them from a group that was raised together and add them at the same time.

Ok, I Had A Sabae Anemone But I Got Him After I Had The Clownfish

[blackangler]

go with bta or lta, seabea's are netorious for death